Funnily early Christians had to defend themselves from accusations of atheism from their Pagan contemporaries because they only believed in the 1(3) God(s).
I have not seen Gillette in while ( he’s not really my jam) and then I saw him in Marty supreme. He has lost a lot of weight and is also much older. Turns out time keeps on turning, who knew.
Anyway all that just to say that’s a really old image of him.
Honestly, the debate as to whether god exists or not is intellectual masturbation, which is either of no consequence, or a mortal sin that will see you burn in a lake of fire, or neither or both of those things, or nothing at all, or everything. Quite simple really
We needed this type of guy in the internet ecosystem. We hunted them to extinction because they were cringe and annoying but they were all that was keeping the religious wackos at bay
Unfortunately when exposed to a girl they immediately convert to a christian fundamentalist because the only thing they hate more than religious zealots are girls. Its why so many of these guys thought jordan peterson was profound.
Only until Dawkins and others like Thunderfoot convinced them that Islam is a thousands times worse that the worst of christianity, then also the culture wars happened.
Even geek circles wanted to do the same “big tent” bullshit new atheists tried to pull when atheism+ happened, except it included actual christian fundamentalists. This lead to some new atheists welcoming them, due to the very heavy overlap of the two circles, which in turn even lead to them converting to conservative christianity.
Atheism+ was atheism with progressive politics, but suddenly some people thought Islam was worse than christianity, and also thought it would court conservative christians a lot better if they were more friendly to conservatism, and also also communism bad therefore we need to counterbalance that with showing that you can be both an atheist and right wing. So atheism+ fell apart, then the secularism of new atheism fell out of favor for “defending western civilization from islamism”, as far-right christians were better at big tentism.
Well, just joking ofc. So that islamophobia was also part of atheism+? The religions wiki conveniently leaves that part out. It really reads like the similar values which the church of Satan stands for, just without the whole “We worship Satan to fuck with fundamentalists” schtick.
That level of conviction that you’re right about something can be pretty destructive regardless of specific belief system. Theory of evolution was a great step forward but also somehow resulted in phrenology and branches of capitalism that liken it to “survival of the fittest” so. People like to concentrate power amongst themselves and people like them then justify it as them being smarter and more right about some kind of fundamental truth about the universe. Assholes gonna asshole regardless.
I’m currently reading Lawrence Krauss’ book “A Universe from Nothing”, and in between the excellent descriptions of our ideas about the big bang and the evolution of the universe he’s constantly sneering and lashing out against religion for absolutely no reason. There’s no relevance for these outbursts at all, but there are 16 pages of preface raging against the idea that some people believe that the word “nothing” means “absolute nothingness” instead of “space” (which is truly an active thing) plus a whole Orwellian doublespeak chapter about how nothing is actually something.
I find myself wondering about that kid sometimes. Like, where is he now. What is he doing? Does he still wake up in the night screaming and soaking in sweat from the embarrassment?
I stopped playing video games and eating junk food, learned that it is nicer to have friends in the real world instead of just enemies on the internet, realized I really like sports and exercise and being outside. I went through a phase where my ego was wrapped up in my physics degree, went through a hippy phase where I spent 6 months hiking and planned on living a life of poverty, went through an anti-consumption/anti-capitalist phase where I refused to actually make any money while working in software, and went through a climate doomerism phase where I started gardening to learn appropriate skills for the coming climate apocalypse. I went through a van life phase where I built out a campervan and lived in it on the streets while working a white collar job in a cubical. I went through an urban design/local politics phase where I regularly went to neighborhood association meetings. I went through a landlord phase where I bought a couple houses and slept on the floor while I rehabbed and rented them out in the time between when I was working. I went through several phases of chronic injury, which led me to a phase of getting into lifting weights, and for a while I was really into kettlebells. I went through vegetarian, keto, IF, and clean eating phases. I went through an incel phase, an online dating fuckboy phase, and an ethically nonmonogamous phase. I went through a backpacking and hiking phase, a rock climbing phase, a canyoneering phase, a running phase, and a swimming phase. I also had a few times when I was really into meditating, being super regimented, waking up early, sleeping in late, drinking a lot, drinking not at all, upskilling for my career every day, doing fuckall hoping to get fired every day, and pulling all nighters to avoid getting fired. So, I dunno. I guess I’ve been living a life.
And as to your question - yes. It’s still embarassing, lol.
I mean, I’m basically a glorified handyman. My rent is some of the cheapest in the city, and I rent rooms to people I think will be a good cultural fit to create a happy and supportive community in the household. Idk, I think it’s pretty cool.
I am as atheist as it’s possible to be. I’ve never been even slightly religious and there’s no part of me that even vaguely believes in anything religious, supernatural, or superstitious.
I read The God Delusion and I found it extremely weak and unconvincing
It’s not exactly a life style choice is it? My experience was that you free yourself from useless crap you don’t need, and that’s it. Trying to persuade other people to follow your path is ultimately not fulfilling as you’re trying to reason someone out of an emotional decision, and it’s not your job to do that.
I grew up completely without religion. I only knew one family that went to church, ever. I feel like these books are weak, because i feel like they weren’t made for me. I don’t need to be convinced, i find religion so out there, it’s like listening to someone who believes that Yu-Gi-Oh is real.
At least he cares about belief enough to “debate” it, even if he doesn’t understand it. I think many “hardcore atheists” are just Western Trinitarians who, at least for a while, wished religion/so-called religious folk had substance but then they see megachurches and politicians saying “God Bless America” before bombing and raping the global South and they’re utterly disappointed.
SquirrelFed
not_IO
Biblically accurate Atheist…
Funnily early Christians had to defend themselves from accusations of atheism from their Pagan contemporaries because they only believed in the 1(3) God(s).
Answered to the wrong comment.
And in this moment I am euphoric
I have the power of Penn Gillette and Anime on my side! BWAHHHHH
I have not seen Gillette in while ( he’s not really my jam) and then I saw him in Marty supreme. He has lost a lot of weight and is also much older. Turns out time keeps on turning, who knew.
Anyway all that just to say that’s a really old image of him.
To be fair, this whole image is really old.
Yes!
This dude absolutely studied the blade
I wonder if he since became an anti-Islam tradcath convert…
I don’t see Sam Harris growing out of his face, but Christopher Hitchens is already a bad look.
Dude probably vapes like a fucking chimney
Honestly, the debate as to whether god exists or not is intellectual masturbation, which is either of no consequence, or a mortal sin that will see you burn in a lake of fire, or neither or both of those things, or nothing at all, or everything. Quite simple really
Pascal’s Wank
We needed this type of guy in the internet ecosystem. We hunted them to extinction because they were cringe and annoying but they were all that was keeping the religious wackos at bay
Unfortunately when exposed to a girl they immediately convert to a christian fundamentalist because the only thing they hate more than religious zealots are girls. Its why so many of these guys thought jordan peterson was profound.
Protect this man (the OOP) from the wamons at all costs!!
/s
Were they? They seemed to attract them more than repel them. Quickest way to turn 1 religious zealot into 20 was add one obnoxious internet atheist.
Cunningham’s Law states “the best way to get the right answer on the internet is not to ask a question; it’s to post the wrong answer.”
Do the buzzer things that kill flies attract more flies because there are a lot of fly corpses around it?
Only until Dawkins and others like Thunderfoot convinced them that Islam is a thousands times worse that the worst of christianity, then also the culture wars happened.
Even geek circles wanted to do the same “big tent” bullshit new atheists tried to pull when atheism+ happened, except it included actual christian fundamentalists. This lead to some new atheists welcoming them, due to the very heavy overlap of the two circles, which in turn even lead to them converting to conservative christianity.
So all in all they took modern satanism, gave it another label and managed to lure fundamentalists into this? Color me impressed.
Atheism+ was atheism with progressive politics, but suddenly some people thought Islam was worse than christianity, and also thought it would court conservative christians a lot better if they were more friendly to conservatism, and also also communism bad therefore we need to counterbalance that with showing that you can be both an atheist and right wing. So atheism+ fell apart, then the secularism of new atheism fell out of favor for “defending western civilization from islamism”, as far-right christians were better at big tentism.
Well, just joking ofc. So that islamophobia was also part of atheism+? The religions wiki conveniently leaves that part out. It really reads like the similar values which the church of Satan stands for, just without the whole “We worship Satan to fuck with fundamentalists” schtick.
Atheism+ was neutral towards Islam, which -alongside with all the progressive politics - broke the minds of more islamophobic new atheists.
That level of conviction that you’re right about something can be pretty destructive regardless of specific belief system. Theory of evolution was a great step forward but also somehow resulted in phrenology and branches of capitalism that liken it to “survival of the fittest” so. People like to concentrate power amongst themselves and people like them then justify it as them being smarter and more right about some kind of fundamental truth about the universe. Assholes gonna asshole regardless.
They pulled them away from other places and kept them distracted for us to lead normal internet lives.
Nah „sceptics“ were instrumental in starting the modern TERF movement. They’re as bad as the fundies.
That’s only fair, they keep citing some random ass goat herder from some millennia ago.
Guy is still less cringe than my fundamentalist parents. Probably less emotionally abusive too
I have the very same ceiling cat. What does that mean? 👻
Who are the faces? I know Stephen Fry (top left) and Richard Dawkins (bottom right), but the other 2?
Bottom left: Penn Jillette from Penn & Teller
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penn_Jillette
Top right is Christopher Hitchens.
thanks
Hitchen’s Razor is an incredible tool.
thanks
If this kid actually read a single book by any of those, I am willing to forgive everything.
By the same logic youre arguing against God, who is pretty infallible.
Checkmate, Satan
I’m currently reading Lawrence Krauss’ book “A Universe from Nothing”, and in between the excellent descriptions of our ideas about the big bang and the evolution of the universe he’s constantly sneering and lashing out against religion for absolutely no reason. There’s no relevance for these outbursts at all, but there are 16 pages of preface raging against the idea that some people believe that the word “nothing” means “absolute nothingness” instead of “space” (which is truly an active thing) plus a whole Orwellian doublespeak chapter about how nothing is actually something.
That’s because Lawrence Krauss is an asshole. Also cancelled, and considered Epstein a dear friend. And willing to sell his soul to a deeply wacko evangelical publisher to bitch about woke culture.
I’ve seen that video. He sexually harassed his students, faced professional consequences, and blamed it on Woke.
There are very few YouTubers who make me giddy with excitement when they drop a 4 hour video. Shawn is one of them.
M’laity
I like Penn & Teller
mega-mind.
“in this moment, I am euphoric”
We’re a system and can’t get this image out of our head now thanks 💀
2010s ass looking post
Euphoric
I find myself wondering about that kid sometimes. Like, where is he now. What is he doing? Does he still wake up in the night screaming and soaking in sweat from the embarrassment?
I was that kid 20 years ago.
I stopped playing video games and eating junk food, learned that it is nicer to have friends in the real world instead of just enemies on the internet, realized I really like sports and exercise and being outside. I went through a phase where my ego was wrapped up in my physics degree, went through a hippy phase where I spent 6 months hiking and planned on living a life of poverty, went through an anti-consumption/anti-capitalist phase where I refused to actually make any money while working in software, and went through a climate doomerism phase where I started gardening to learn appropriate skills for the coming climate apocalypse. I went through a van life phase where I built out a campervan and lived in it on the streets while working a white collar job in a cubical. I went through an urban design/local politics phase where I regularly went to neighborhood association meetings. I went through a landlord phase where I bought a couple houses and slept on the floor while I rehabbed and rented them out in the time between when I was working. I went through several phases of chronic injury, which led me to a phase of getting into lifting weights, and for a while I was really into kettlebells. I went through vegetarian, keto, IF, and clean eating phases. I went through an incel phase, an online dating fuckboy phase, and an ethically nonmonogamous phase. I went through a backpacking and hiking phase, a rock climbing phase, a canyoneering phase, a running phase, and a swimming phase. I also had a few times when I was really into meditating, being super regimented, waking up early, sleeping in late, drinking a lot, drinking not at all, upskilling for my career every day, doing fuckall hoping to get fired every day, and pulling all nighters to avoid getting fired. So, I dunno. I guess I’ve been living a life.
And as to your question - yes. It’s still embarassing, lol.
Sounds like you’re actually living a full life, learning and seeking.
Bet you wouldn’t change much in your past.
When I die: I want to covered in scars, in a room of mementoes, and surrounded by my people. (Some sort of bloody last stand would also be cool.)
The only shameful thing you did was becoming a landlord. The rest you can feel ok about.
Nah but seriously, your life sounds a lot like mine. Maybe it’s not a hundred different phases, maybe it’s just the one big phase.
I mean, I’m basically a glorified handyman. My rent is some of the cheapest in the city, and I rent rooms to people I think will be a good cultural fit to create a happy and supportive community in the household. Idk, I think it’s pretty cool.
Remember the atheists of reddit thing? I wonder how many developed alcoholism from the cringe
Whaddya know, idols that actually didn’t end up being pedofiles! I like this guy
I mean Dawkins is anti trans, so he can fuck off, but the rest are pretty cool.
Oh. Well that figures, he was always a little meh to me
I am as atheist as it’s possible to be. I’ve never been even slightly religious and there’s no part of me that even vaguely believes in anything religious, supernatural, or superstitious.
I read The God Delusion and I found it extremely weak and unconvincing
Thank you for your service
I thought God is Not Great was much better.
I haven’t read it, but I don’t find Hitchen’s argumentative style in other venues to be better than Dawkins’
It’s not exactly a life style choice is it? My experience was that you free yourself from useless crap you don’t need, and that’s it. Trying to persuade other people to follow your path is ultimately not fulfilling as you’re trying to reason someone out of an emotional decision, and it’s not your job to do that.
I grew up completely without religion. I only knew one family that went to church, ever. I feel like these books are weak, because i feel like they weren’t made for me. I don’t need to be convinced, i find religion so out there, it’s like listening to someone who believes that Yu-Gi-Oh is real.
Don’t think he should be drinking from that mug. Looks homemade and not properly glazed.
DeviantArt?
“I have so many other people’s ideas I can’t even think for myself anymore!”
More like: “all these arguments have already been debunked so many times by people more eloquent than me, why should I waste time inventing my own?”
At least he cares about belief enough to “debate” it, even if he doesn’t understand it. I think many “hardcore atheists” are just Western Trinitarians who, at least for a while, wished religion/so-called religious folk had substance but then they see megachurches and politicians saying “God Bless America” before bombing and raping the global South and they’re utterly disappointed.